Eumig P8 automatic 8mm cine projector

This article looks at the Eumig P8 automatic 8mm cine projector, which was one of the later models in the P8 range that Eumig produced in great quantities in the 1950s and 60s.

Eumig P8 automatic images

There are some images of the Eumig P8 automatic film projector in the gallery below.

My Eumig P8 automatic Projector

I bought this Eumig P8 automatic projector for a few pounds from eBay primarily because it came with a collection of 8mm films rather than for the actual projector itself. When I received the package however, I found the unit is actually both a different model than the other Eumig P8 I have, and also is in considerably better condition.

The only actual damage I can find with this example is that the plastic cover of the feed sprocket has come off and was lying in the bottom of the box. The seems to be a standard problem with the P8 – my other unit was missing the bottom one. I will probably see if I can fit the top component from my P8m to this unit to make it perfect.

Mechanically there was one fault which was easy enough to find and repair; the drive was not being transmitted because the drive belt had degraded to a mass of sticky black goo in the back of the projector. After some cleaning up with paper towels and cotton buds soaked in IPA, I used the drive belt from the P8m as a replacement.

All in all this was quite a good buy for the few pounds I paid for it. The unit seems to work perfectly, there was a handbook, mains lead and take up spool supplied as well and the mechanical condition seems pretty good.

Because the projector works, I was also able to confirm that the problem with my other P8 which stops the lamp from lighting is not the lamp itself because it works fine in this unit. That means that I have a spare lamp, which is quite useful since they are no longer made and quite expensive to buy.

Eumig P8 Automatic Projector Description.

The Eumig P8 Automatic was a later model in the Eumig P8 range and add the option to automatically thread the film.

Initially, I assumed this was the same as autofeed, which many later projectors had, but it isn’t quite the same thing.

In an autofeed projector, the film is fed into the projector and it is pulled through the film path and appears out of the machine at the take up spool. In some cases the film is automatically caught by the take up spool and the machine is ready to go.

The P8 Automatic is not that advanced (although I believe the P8 novo did add that functionality). With this unit, the film is automatically threaded through the initial film path of the projector and needs to be manually trained along the bottom of the machine, under the lamp holder and onto the take up spool once it appears at the bottom of the auto threader. This action is achieved with a plastic component which is screwed on the body of the projector and basically has film guides to force the film into the correct loops and down through the film gate.

In my experience with this projector the auto threading is not very successful. I found the film bunched up in the device which is supposed to form the loop at the top of the projector, and I found it easier to remove the auto threader and manually thread the projector. The missing plastic cover on the sprocket wheels make is slightly harder to get the film into the correct path, but it’s certainly doable.

In many ways, other than the auto feed device, this unit is very similar the the P8m which I have already featured on this site, so I won’t go into too many details which would be a repeat of the other article – please follow the link above to read that article if you are interested.

I will mention that the lens is also different from the P8m however. This unit is fitted with an F/1.3 15 – 25mm zoom lens which allows the size of the projected picture to be changed without moving the projector’s position relative to the screen.

Projector use.

Since I couldn’t actually project a film with my P8m, this unit is the first of the P8 series that I’ve actually used for viewing a film and I found it quite an enjoyable experience. The projector is quieter than the Chinon C-300 I normally use, and gives a picture which requires less fiddling with the focus and framing controls once it is set up. Although I don’t at the moment have a proper vintage projection screen, setting up a piece of white card on the wall and projecting one of the films which came with the unit provided a nice steady picture which was quite bright and stable.

One other point I would make about the P8 is that the general reliability of the unit seems quite good. I know I have another unit which doesn’t work, but they certainly seem more reliable as a design than the later Eumig models which have a vertically mounted motor and change from forward to reverse by pushing the motor drive against rubberised discs. I have bought about 3 of those style machines and even the ones which have been bought a ‘fully working’ have problems with the motor mounts.


Here is a short video clip of the Projector showing a film of a trip along the Norwegian coast which was taken in 1971.

Projector Handbook.

Because I had a copy of the handbook supplied with this projector I thought it may be useful to other owners so I’ve scanned it for viewing below.


Projector Specifications.

  • Eumig P8 automatic standard 8 film projector
  • Automatic threading of film through the film gate
  • Forward or reverse projection which variable speed
  • Single frame viewing with reduced brightness
  • Power rewind
  • 12V 100W lamp
  • Eumig f/1.3 15 – 25mm Zoom lens
  • Lamp socket for powering a table lamp during film viewing evenings
  • Small, portable unit
  • Handbook viewable above
  • Serial No: 1255487

19 Replies to “Eumig P8 automatic 8mm cine projector”

  1. Hi Simon. I have just about my 1st Eumig P8 which I know nothing about so your article has been most helpful. I have loaded the files and when switched on it lights up and is making the right noise but the film isn’t turning. Could this be the issue you were talking about and if so is it easy enough to open up to have a look? Many thanks. Dave.

    1. Hi Dave – yes that sounds like the same issue. It is easy enough to get the back open and have a check – there is one screw holding the cover and it hinges down. Just be wary that lots of the metalwork inside the machine has mains voltage on it so although there is an interlock switch (I believe), you should make sure it’s unplugged before checking.

  2. Hi Simon,
    I was delighted to find your blog on the Eumig P8 automatic projector. I have the predecessor of the automatic, the imperial. It has been in my family for more than 57 years. My father gave it to my brother and I when we emigrated to the States in 1963. We used it a lot in the early years but its later years have spent in numerous closets from Boston to Maryland to Arizona. I recently took interest in using it to view a box full of 8mm films from our childhood. Naturally it wasn’t as simple as plug in and go. It was missing the cable and needed replacements for the bulb and one of the belts. I watched eBay for many months but I eventually decided to buy another one and share parts, as necessary. The new one is the Eumig P8 automatic, a step above our imperial. I am pleased with the machine I got, especially it’s improvements. My final task Is purchasing the lamp. It seems that the light bulbs may be the same. However there were differences between bulb specs. The imperial uses a BXT 12 volts, 800 watts bulb and the specs for the automatic seem to be the same but without the BXT. I’m not sure what that denotes so this is where I get caught up. Found another posting on line that says the automatic uses 12V , 100W – ANSI : BWT , BLS but it didn’t specify the B numbers. Only difference between my automatic light and new one I I found on eBay is the configuration of the elements inside the bulb. Think this may be due to manufacturing of different brands.can you please shed some light (haha)? Would appreciate your comments.

  3. I just purchased a Eumig P8 Novo Phonomatic – in the original box and it very good condition – it has an original sale tag one the box £29 10 Shillings and its from a company called R A Mackintosh – High Street.. not sure where that is. The motor is running and I can see the motor drive belt needs to be changed and I need a bulb.. I think a light oiling and that should hopefully get it back running – lovely build quality and for €20 I think it was worth the money – Regards from Ireland, stay safe, Paul

  4. Hi,
    I’ve recently bought an old P8 automatic, mailnly to use as a reserve for my P8. I soon discovered that the belt inside the P8 automatic, as you describe above, was sticky and in parts. Do you or anyone have any suggestions of where I can find a replacement belt?
    Also when I bought the P8 automatic I got a Phonomat P8 – anyone who has a manual or suggestions in use?

    1. Hi – when I needed a belt for my P8 I found one on eBay. I can’t remember the seller, but it only cost a few pounds and has been fine since I fitted it about 2 years ago.

  5. I dug out my father in law’s P8 to see film of my wife’s family. They have all passed away now. After much fiddling the images are shown in reverse.

  6. Hi,
    many thanks for your excellent resource. Just inherited a Eumig P8 and loads of films, but reels wouldn’t move. Thanks to your site I now understand the black gunge inside and have ordered a new belt for under a fiver. Brilliant
    Keep up the good work.

  7. Interesting and helpful blog on the Eumig P8.. I have one of these and I am having problems with it blowing the bulb which from memory runs on a 12V supply – I recorded the voltage at over 14V hence bulb is too bright and blows.. Any idea where I check – much be a voltage regulator issue feeing the bulb circuit 🙂


    1. Hi
      I don’t think there is anything as sophisticated as voltage regulator, I think the bulb is just supplied as a tapping on the transformer. I assume the mains selection panel is set correctly?

      1. Thanks Simon / I haven’t done any tracing of wires that feed the bulb yet and yes more then likely it’s tapped off the transformer- the voltage tapping is set to the correct mains power voltage which is 220VAC here in Ireland

        Might get some time this weekend to do some poking about with my P8 – love it


    2. Paul – i have had the same my bulb blew – i have a eumig novo – have you managed to find a bulb that hasn’t blown?

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